Big E does a little trolling. You cannot give up on one without giving up on the other. The emperor was maneuvering events into what he saw leading to the best outcome while avoiding butterfly-effect esque mistakes. ‘I did not say I disapproved, Yassilli. ago. Drach'nyen may be one of these. The Lion closes his eyes. To Guilliman, the dire state of the Imperium was a horrifying surprise. '. The Emperor and Guilliman complained, his father continuing, "Why the hell would you want it doing that!" "That is an incredibly inefficient method for a rifle. ‘Father gave you His blade, I see. Couple this with him having a hard time. That he accepted, though it was a burden to be so. 7. And don't forget how "Lord Guilliman" is actually a title that the commander of all Imperium forces held until the War of the Beast. But the Emperor was able to heal Guilliman, use him as a vessel to burn down Nurgle’s gardens, and then revive his son fully — which is a power play that we’re not used to seeing from the. In Unremembered Empire, Guilliman is the lone Primarch in charge of Ultramar, blocked from Terra by the Ruinstorm. Guilliman and Sanguinius are THE most reasonable Primarchs, the Lion was butthurt and acted like a. The Emperor is not infallible, nor am I. In Dark Imperium it states that Guilliman did speak to the emperor telepathically and the emperor's mind has strengthened to completely new levels however he has lost his patience and humanity in the process, living as a consciousness in a. Despite the Emperor absolutely detesting Roboute Guilliman and wanting his life support cut off, in the Gathering Storm event of 40k canon, Guilliman finally awakens and has the exact same horrified and furious reaction to the bottomless cruelty and stupidity of the 41st millennium Imperium as the text-to-speech Emperor did. In short, Guilliman's loyalty is to the Emperor's goals and ideals, more so than to the. So communication and Travel was more unreliable and harder than normal. The Imperial Cult deified him as a demigod; Guilliman, the Emperor's Avenging Son. Tech-Priests have levels of machine-enforced autism that normal people simply can't match. In fealty to Sesc Company, of the Rout, of the Vlka Fenryka. The speculation is that Guilliman goes to talk with the Emperor, and emerges with the Emperors sword. See full list on warhammer40k. what Guilliman was planning for was the Imperium's survival after the HH, where the powers that were would be broken down into the powers that be. ’ ‘Guilliman. But here he was, alive and breathing. ‘Death to the false Emperor,’ said the voice Guilliman had thought belonged to Aeonid Thiel. In fact that's probably what made him one of the most adjusted and functional Primarchs, He suffered Loss and Failure, BEFORE The Emperor Arrived and that made him more introspective and self-critical, Rather than pushing all blame onto The. Guilliman stopped his walking and looked down at the woman. The reason he follows the Emperor closely is because (most of the time) he thinks those two things align. Guilliman is best described as disingenuous, unscrupulous, power-hungry, obsessively controlling, and self-deluded. A literal hope in the Emperor's vision for mankind. When Guilliman gives and order you have to imagine the fucking god Emperor himself got up of his throne and came and told you the same. But things change and in 40k the Emperor and the Imperium are the same thing. Because it never happens. At the same time, he's growing more and more unsure that the Emperor ISN'T a god. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Blacksheep045 • 5 yr. So it actually not out of character. King Konor was my father. ‘He is not a god,’ said Guilliman out loud. I'd say stealing away thousands upon thousands of potential Astartes candidates/actual serving Astartes to turn them into improved super soldiers that you then keep hidden until the incredibly edge case scenario of Guilliman coming back to life occurs definitely seems like a total betrayal of the Emperor and his Imperium. Now there is only Guilliman left, the only demi god that the emperor decided to rez (whether or not it was Guilliman who originally planned it, or Cawl, or Yvraigne, or whoever it doesn't really matter - if the emperor didn't want it to happen, it wouldn't have). There is only survival. ‘Guilliman. What did the emperor say to Roboute? After the long pilgrimage Guiliman enters the inner sanctum and is alone with the emperor for some time. Many centuries ago, Messinius had made the pilgrimage to see the primarch’s body. And RG is a. The emperor lists off several names and titles for him at once when he first addresses guiliman. And you're right. 10. Guilliman was nobility writ large, a monument in flesh. But now? Guilliman finally gained his composure. He kinda did. He remembered so clearly the first time he had seen Guilliman in the Temple of Correction. The Imperium is under new management, with a very stressed and sad man named Roboute Guilliman taking the helm. One of the most important points in the current Warhammer 40k lore is the encounter between Primarch Roboute Guilliman and the Emperor of Mankind from Warhammer 40000. We’re all waiting for the biggest showdown looming over the future of 40K – Roboutte Guilliman versus Lion El’ Jonson. The Emperor considers him an instrument, and isn't wrong to do so. Abaddon kills the Custodes. But lets face it, if Horus wanted to, he could kill his 3 brothers in mere seconds. The conversation with Guilliman after he returned is Roboute talking to a semi-ascended deity whose mind and soul are fractured beyond belief. Mathieu wanted week to decide. Obviously not wind back the clock to Guilliman’s age because it wouldn’t suit the model, but some sort of physical refresh. NONE OF YOU EVER WERE" bit seemed especially hamfisted and everything started to fall apart afterward in terms of the cohesiveness if the writing. Advertisement. His words in that matter would be ignored every bit as much as the Ecclesiarchy would ignore him telling them to stop worshipping the Emperor or some suchIn the Regent's Shadow we see Guilliman keeps an obsidian statue bust of Sanguinius in his bedroom, so he definitely misses him quite a bit. As proof, he has the support of the Custodes, including the Emissary Imperators themselves. ‘I shall depart today, for the Emperor. When the Emperor appears to Magnus during the Siege, He projects into Magnus’ mind as a glowing sun-god and they burn through the warp together, moving through billions of years in moments. Then calls them over for negotiations, they seem him and can't believe it. Emperor meeting with Imperator Guilliman of Ultramar Empire together with President Angron of Nurceria would be hilarious. The Emperor did not love His sons. As said in the OP, Leman Russ is the Emperor's executioner. Plot summary of Gathering Storm II: Fracture of Biel-Tan. "The Emperor loves us all' lied Roboute Guilliman My last Dark Imperium excerpt was received very well so I wanted to share my other favorite excerpt. Within the universe, Guilliman very well may be capable of showing them all a better way (notwithstanding that this "better way" is coming from a man who commits genocide on a Tuesday), which is exactly why out of universe it'll never happen. In the end a compromise was wrought between them. ’ ‘Thief. So did, perhaps, the fact that Guilliman already had responsibilities. To be a regent of a monarchs is to have the exact authority rights and respect of that monarch in his or her stead. He did write that the Emperor impresses his abstract thoughts onto people's minds and they interpret that message through their own filter, though. Big E does a little trolling. A third comes, eager for the glory of killing a primarch. One of the Emporer's Primarch's, Guilliman, once had an audience with the Emperor behind closed doors. Or maybe the Emperor was lying for some reason only he could understand. The Lion wouldn't hate what Guilliman has done, Guilliman would hate what the Lion would do. Guilliman is the Regent - his word is as if it came from the Emperor. While Guilliman is in charge of the Ultramarines, he is Lord Commander of the Imperium. A true father. Gallan, it transpired, had long harboured designs on undiluted rulership and had consp…I don't think that Guilliman references the Emperor as a reason behind the Indominitus Crusade or as an inspiration for his dealings with Belisarius Cawl (which began before Guilliman went into stasis). As any us would be, Guilliman is rightly upset having been lied to and feels used and betrayed. ‘He speaks to me, brother,’ said Roboute Guilliman. They did get extra attention from the Emperor and were his chosen Legion until they were given to The Lion. Once Luther and the Fallen are dead, Lion would come back and be a problem for Guilliman. A tankard is whipped at supersonic speeds, smashing the Silent King's head off his shoulders. - Dark Imperium. ‘But the Lord Guilliman is the Emperor’s son, and His appointed deputy, ruling in His stead, so therefore it is reasonable to–’ ‘Appointed by whom?’ said Cehen-qui loudly. It could very well still be that the Siege took too long and Guilliman and his accumulated forces entered the Sol system leaving Horus no choice but to act right then. The Silent King looms over him, ready to stab him through the heart. ’ He heard all these at once. He had hoped for better from the Primarch. I believe this excerpt from Dawn of Fire: The Gate of Bones gives the clearest answer we've had so far. He still believes he is. Shamed, Helbrecht promoted a number of his most seasoned Sword Bretheren to the rank of Marhsal and bade them muster new crusades, into whose ranks the Black Templars. The Emperor spoke and did not speak. He also knows that pushing too hard will lead to civil war. By all accounts, the XIII Legion was one of the most effective measured by quantity of successful compliances. Despite his injuries Dante demands to be taken. Thematically, the shield is a good way to remind him that he's not the scalpel he once was. There's a reason that famous painting of the Emperor confronting Horus on the Vengeful Spirit has three central figures, and the body of Sanguinius is one of them. So there's. ’ Guilliman looked at the girl’s mutilated body. The line of Custodian guards parted at the center to allow him to stand before the Lion. ''I cannot say, my lord,' said Valdor. Commander Dante was nearly killed by the Tyranid on Baal, while recovering in what remain of the Blood Angel's Fortress Monastery he receives word that their saviors, The Primarch Roboute Guilliman, the Ultramarines, and a strange new type of Space Marine, had landed. 49. And if the High Lords wish to deny the authority of the Regent, know that they deny themselves to legitimacy of leadership of the Imperium, for they succeeded the Council of Terra on orders of Guilliman's reformation of the Imperium. ‘He is not my father,’ Guilliman said. Option 1: The Emperor told Guilliman what he needed to hear to steel himself for the grim, dark future of the 42nd Millenium - there's no place for softness. As any us would be, Guilliman is rightly upset having been. With that he forced Frater Mathieu to accept Guilliman's offer of militant-apostolic office. The brother-on-brother battles of the Heresy had once seemed the height of madness to. No, at no point did the Emperor intend humanity to move en masse into the Webway. The Custodians' captain-general gave it to him; Guilliman did not begrudge the priest his awe. injures Nurgle himself implicaton is that while this was a massive, MASSIVE, strain on the Emperor's power, he WILL do it againThis quote is from chapter 3 "Rise of the Primarch" of the 2010 sourcebook The Gathering Storm III: Rise of the Primarch (WHF04, published by Fantasy Flight Games). That's the 9 loyal Primarchs, all had reasons for staying loyal. Losing faith in the Emperor is losing faith in the Imperium. It is very likely that the Emperor did more in his trip besides obtain the stuff to create the primarchs. It is very likely that the Emperor did more in his trip besides obtain the stuff to create the primarchs. Dust-Wonderful • 7 mo. "The Emperor was working on a timeline that didn’t have much wiggle room That said, he did tell Land that the Nails were the only thing keeping Angron alive and he couldn’t remove them without killing him, so it’s also possible the the Nails have damaged Angron in a way that prevents the Emperor from fixing him after deathMortarion already had quite a bit to say about the appointment of Horus, imagine adding conflicted loyalties and "local" politics to that as well. That's true, but I thought you were talking mainly pre-heresy, because now it's obvious Guilliman won't like his traitor brothers. Please go read them if you can. ’ ‘Liar. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being. Guilliman and Sanguinius are THE most reasonable Primarchs, the Lion was butthurt and acted like a. Plot summary of Wrath of Magnus. Come what may, I have to stop Horus and Guilliman. -It was the destiny of the Dark Angels, and all Space Marines to endure constant war. ’ Silence. It was actually kind of wild that Guilliman when given the chance didn't give Mortarion the true death he deserved. An Emperor who can still speak clearly and say something like "you will assume this title and do these tasks" is not an Emperor that Guilliman would renounce. He was not the man who brought the rasp; he was the rasp. Guilliman's characterization, as well as the subtlty of his realizations about his father, seemed highly inconsistent with their portrayal in Dark Imperium. I want to hear you say it. Business, Economics, and Finance. The Horus Hearsay, where 9 drunken Primarchs say that the Emperor would totally be able to do a standing jump high enough to touch the ceiling of the throne room, and the other 9 argue that he needs a run-up, and the end result. I was trying to think about what would be the ultimate GrimDark ending to Guilliman's story. The Cicatrix Maledictum is crossed and Guilliman reaches Baal. To save his brothers, to kill them. ‘The Emperor denied His own divinity,’ said Guilliman flatly. IMO Abbadon < Guilliman < Chaos-Empowered Abbadon = Emperor-Empowered Guilliman. The Emperor's power surges to revive Guilliman the surge of "holy" power actually burns a section of the realm of Nurgle, ie. By helping Angron, Guilliman would avoid breeding the same kind of animosity that the Emperor did. Thus, by definition, the Inquisition is his to command. Not to mention that even if the predictable happens (Guilliman wins), if done right, both could look badass. ’ ‘Liar. He was there to watch the primarch. To be honest, I didn’t like the book. He reached out, and the Emperor’s Sword appeared in his hand, and burned with the fires of a thousand suns. So instead he fired the ones that he wanted gone, replaced them with ones who would support his agenda of “we need to fix this mess” and then. And the Emperors sword kind of fucks with Chaos being able to come back. Mathieu was thankfully unmoved. TheEvilBlight Administratum • 3 yr. Guilliman had seen the look on the priest’s face too many times on other holy men. ’. Always, it was the sword that did the damage. Guilliman reminded Helbrecht of the oaths he had sworn, and how his duty as High Marshal was to all the Emperor's realm rather than just being to his own personal vendettas. "You seriously need to get laid but not even a rock would do it with you. Primarch of the Ultramari. To my knowledge, the Lion hasn't had a lot of experience with politics. ‘He speaks to me, brother,’ said Roboute Guilliman. ” Emps: “TO SAY THAT I AM SURPRISED IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT. I could be embellishing but I recall he briefly speaks on each. When the Emperor appears to Magnus during the Siege, He projects into Magnus’ mind as a glowing sun-god and they burn through the warp together, moving through billions of years in moments. Guilliman- I’m also Lord Commander of the Imperium, and our last, best hope to save humanity. He ascended to sainthood. ‘He is not my father,’ Guilliman said. He was overwhelming. ‘That is unlikely,’ said Guilliman. Guilliman nodded. He lets Guilliman keep the 500 Worlds both to keep him occupied doing what he was designed to do, and to act as a 'second foundation' to the Imperium. Even with all the work he managed to do, he'd be deemed another horus by all those who believe in the Emperor as a God and it'll be a civil war the imperium can't afford. ‘I can never believe that,’ he said. Maybe he is forced to do something that upsets the Ecliasarchy and Inquisition and as a. It was the look of the blindly faithful. Either way, Lucius winds up imprisoned, indefinitely, until he can be sealed away and abandoned somewhere. . Plot summary of Gathering Storm I: Fall of Cadia. Tau try to annex Imperial Worlds thinking the Great Rift weakened them. This is why the Emperor never made Guilliman Warmaster, he didn't want to make him a bigger target or influence him away from his purpose. Agronomy would probably still be really pissed at the emperor and by extension the imperium for letting all his fellow gladiators die on Nuceria. So at the minimum that's one primarch with a similar level of accomplishment as Guilliman before being found again by the Emperor. IndySoccerFan25 • 6 yr. In that state, He denies He is cold as Magnus accuses Him of being. In the long run, if he returned, I imagine he'd eventually butt heads with Guilliman to see how much power over the Imperium Guilliman is willing to cede peacefully. Said faith deifies the Emperor and, therefore, Guilliman himself, something which gets him pretty fired up. Guilliman stared back, his expression hidden by the muzzle of his helmet. ‘He created me, but I assure you, priest, that He was no father. "That's a rare weapon indeed," Magnus said, "A useless and broken weapon. I mean, if the chamber militant of the inquisition that are the Grey Knights look to be siding with him, I think pretty much any marine chapter (outside of say, DA and Minotaurs) will. I want to see someone roll up to Guilliman and just deliver a blistering, no-holds-barred, "You fuckers all ran off or died or vanished and left us and your father here to fend for our fucking selves, so we did what we had to in order to. Like let's say the emperor on the throne is one man and the one possessing women and zapping untold amounts of enemies is a new chaos god who just hasn't found his evil. He wants to reunite humanity again and destroy the old doctrine of idolatry towards the emperor in order to lead humanity to the right path. When Guilliman had his initial conversation with the Emperor after returning, he finds this out. At some point you must realize that there exists things other then governance. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of. By sacrificing their children to the Emperor’s service, they have earned a better life. Kor Phaeron’s narrow lips moulded into a grimace, opposing his primarch’s smirk. Spoilers ahead: "Necessity overcomes morality. ‘Yes,’ Mathieu smiled serenely. 1)Because there is a major difference between building an empire and waging war. If He were alive. ‘Was he as gifted as they say the Great Angel was?’ ‘He was,’ said Guilliman. The Emperor said it Himself, guilliman is an empirebuilder, more an administrator. An Imperium that is larger, stronger, faithful and united. In Dark Imperium Guilliman believes that the Emperor sees him as a tool to escape his imprisonment on the throne. ‘That is not the question you came to ask, but I will answer it anyway. Practical, the Emperor is not a god. It is unknown to any but Guilliman whether or not Guilliman actually had any communication with his father during his time in the throne room, but I say it didn't happen, maybe it was all in his head, and here is why: It is said that Lion El'Johnson, mortally wounded during his fight with Luther, was taken in secret by the Watchers in the Dark. What hurt most deeply was what went unsaid. Quel Tarin · 4/6/2017. 7. ‘Tell me that you did it. There was no hope in this world. ’ ‘Failure. The Emperor did not love His sons. It's the throwdown you've been waiting for, as Guilliman and Mortarion work out ten thousand years of pent-up resentment in a clash for the ages. ♫Hello Mr Emperor♫. But found only conflicting stories and myth. The Emperor greeted Guilliman not as a father receives a son, but as a craftsmen who rediscovers a favourite tool that he thought lost. Guilliman looked to the book. Why would Guilliman's political enemies say that the God Emperor ordered Guilliman to nuke an emptied temple-city, when they can say that Guilliman nuked a temple-city of the God Emperor? If they time the announcement right, half the Imperium could be ready to overthrow another Horus before Guilliman can try doing fact-checked damage control. Roboute and the Emperor. ‘Your killer. First, when Guilliman was wounded by Fulgrim, Emperor literally pulls Guilliman out of the Warp, keeping him alive long enough to be put into stasis. Guilliman, one presumes, heeded the warning. The Primarch acceded to this demand, though it sat ill with his bleak inner mood. If Guilliman got his way yes, people would obey him as he would speak for the Emperor, but he wouldn't claim the Emperor was wrong in any way but he could have his "Interpretation" of the Emperor's words essentially treated as gospel. He did not hear then at all. Guilliman had it easy compared to Angron, but Angron never tried to push past his circumstances and essentially just gave up once the Emperor gave him the War Hounds. They were things. As soon as it turns sunshine and rainbows it's not 40k anymore. 10. ‘He is not my father,’ Guilliman said. Credits:Rowboat Girlyman art by Adrián Prado: Divina by. The demons refer to him as The Anathema and Mortarion refers to him as "Father". Guilliman is effectively dead on the floor during most of the exchange. The Emperor's Sword is just a sweep attack weapon now and that feels similar to everyone else. He did not hear them at all. 1. Even those Chapter Masters who readily accept him as the wisest among. 3. 6. So, we know that Guilliman talked with the. Do we know if the Emperor instructed Guilliman to do. There is a reason why the emperor wanted him to come back first before the lion or any of his other brothers. ‘Father?’ The Emperor greeted Guilliman not as a father receives a son, but as a craftsmen who rediscovers a favourite tool that he thought lost. ‘Guilliman. shall we say, not the life of the party. ’ The raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains upon its worlds. Guy Haley, Dark Imperium (2017)Guilliman's initial reaction: ‘Of all of them… Why did it have to be him who found a way through the storm?’. In that state, He denies He is cold as Magnus accuses Him of being. Emperor was trying to tell them to pick up the pace. Dante is sick but has been leading a chapter only, 1000 marines give or take. The being he had thought of as a father could hide nothing from him. Guilliman stopped his walking and looked down at the woman. Horus is the brightest star and you carry your father’s face, but Guilliman’s heart and soul are cast in the Emperor’s image. Lion fought Chaos at Caliban and Sang fought and died on Terra. It is good to be reminded that I am a person as well as a. Guilliman is going to suffer now that he's back. Guilliman confidently assumes that he, a primarch, will be of huge significance in the outcome of the war. Option 2: After 10k years of being tortured by a glorified toilet seat, He's got no time to lose on being nice and shit and Guilliman thinking "He must've always. In fact that entire section of Roboute Guilliman's fandom page seems to be the entire chapter almost. In any of these 3 cases, Guilliman is alone to "fix" the Imperium, so he has no need for keeping in mind his father's desires. Context: Shortly after the start of the Indomitus-Crusade, an increasing number of Psykers among the. Practical, the Emperor is not a god. The Emperor's Sword gives him the edge that he may be lacking. Sectors are fairly large though. He did not hear them at all. It's to show us how far Abby's come and that he's a real threat. No bad blood, just “thank god, someone competent to have my back. When interacting with Dante too during Devastation of Baal I always got the feeling that Guilliman really was hoping to get a similar relationship with Dante as he did Sanguinius. The dawn of a new age of supremacy for humanity beckons. Vulkan disapears at some point befoee Guilliman os wounded and but later reappears over a 1000 years later. ’. I would tell Guilliman about what the High Lords of Terra did. ‘I say that you fear too much, and that Roboute Guilliman is a true son of the Emperor,’ said Achallor. The sensation of many minds reached out to Guilliman, violating his senses as they tried to commune, but then one mind seemed to come from the many, a raw, unbounded power, and gave out wordless commands to go out and save what they built together. ‘And to you, son of the Emperor of Mankind, my ally, and my enemy. The Emperor of the East Roman Empire who even though he tried could not restore the West. The viral zephyrs would cling to the planet for a time before finally feasting upon itself and dissipating, transforming a planet of little life to one of absolutely none. He behaved like a prisoner locked in an iron cage who is passed a rasp. The Emperor’s words burned him. Guilliman tries to kill one in Dark Imperium but that daemon is fated to exist at the end of time so it can't be killed. The being he had thought of as a father could hide nothing from him. Sanguinius dying is as important to the creation of the modern Imperium as Uncle Ben dying is to the creation of Spider-Man. ‘What is the purpose you have in mind for me?’ asked Guilliman. ‘Guilliman. And that death would crack the morale of the Imperium Sanctus. ‘I must fight him. Guilliman's return sparked Mortarion's interest in material affairs once more, and for the first time in 10,000 years he decided to lead the whole of the Death Guard in a renewed campaign. He set up the Word Bearers to want to go after the Ultramarines. “Open your eyes, you fools! He holds the Emperor’s Shield!” the Captain-General proclaimed. Cause he had the biggest legion. Thus spoke Roboute Guilliman in 41K. ‘But in your holiness, you did not turn. 2K 264K views 2 years ago Hey everyone! Wolf Lord Rho here!. Nor did the Emperor. He was there to watch the primarch. He heard all these at once. Told Nurgle to piss off when orders to retreat came in and exposed nurgles realm to attack from the emperor. The rest of 30k still feels pretty grim. There's a reason that famous painting of the Emperor confronting Horus on the Vengeful Spirit has three central figures, and the body of Sanguinius is one of them. Essentially, he's basically in control of the entire Imperium. Guilliman wins, either through the power of the faith humanity has in him or by being super-charged by the Emperor. ’ ‘Disappointment. ’ His voice softened further, becoming yet more human, and his heroic expression did not change exactly, but he somehow became more relatable. Jarax · 8/9/2017. 000) Roboute Guilliman; Emperor's A+ parenting; Primarchs (Warhammer 40. A cheap tactic. Guilliman had no illusions. They were the only legion permitted to use the Aquilla. Guilliman, all his brothers, were nothing but a means to an end. 'Guilliman. Guilliman was already a governor of 500 world by the time Ullanor rolled around. Guilliman cannot merely say that he fights for the Emperor or in His name. ’. Thanks to MANSCAPED for sponsoring today's video! Get 20% OFF + Free International Shipping with my promo code "MAJORKILL" at The Emperor would not condone the loss of millions simply to reign Curze/the Night Lords in. Guilliman may even have been able to resist if he wanted to. - Dark Imperium. Templars- Sounds right. He can insist that he thought the Emperor was dead all he wants but in 40k that’s not the mitigating circumstances, it’s the crime. The Emperor was just using bog standard possession, like a daemon sword possessing Fulgrim or End of Empires possessing, well everything from a basic human to a titan. Guilliman has returned in glory to the Emperor's side. Currently Magnus is more potent with the psychic round, but Guilliman's armour's special rules means Guilliman can come back from any death - so tabletop would be interesting. If all else went wong Guilliman would be heir to the empire. One of the countless worlds lost to greater mankind during the darkness of Old Night. So neutral. From the novel: Plague War. ’ ‘Failure. Magos Lehm, next one. Guilliman is channeling power from the Emperor but it’s fully possessed by him, so he still has limited information. Before Roboute reunited with his real father, the Emperor, he was taken care of by Konor Guilliman, one of the two Consuls of Macragge. Horus is the brightest star and you carry your father’s face, but Guilliman’s heart and soul are cast in the Emperor’s image. The seeming fact that Dorn held this position in Guilliman's stead until essentially the moment Guilliman arrived, at which point Dorn immediately abdicated and Guilliman took up the role, indicates to me that there was a pre-existing understanding of some sort that Guilliman would take the overall reigns in the Emperor's prolonged absence. injures Nurgle himself implicaton is that while this was a massive, MASSIVE, strain on the Emperor's power, he WILL do it again After his resurrection, Roboute Guilliman has gained an audience with his father, the Emperor of Mankind. When ROGAL DORN of all Primarchs is criticizing the Emperor, you know it's serious. Guilliman is the Imperial Regent - he talked to and got the approval from the Emperor. 0 like Horus. That is why they talk so freely. It seems that Guilliman is just accepting that some people aren't just going to change because he says so. The Primarchs are already called demigods throughout Godblight. I believe this excerpt from Dawn of Fire: The Gate of Bones gives the clearest answer we've had so far. Guilliman would still help Angron with his rebellion, which would save the lives of his gladiator friends. Guilliman still calls himself Guilliman and is power is white rather than the gold that you see from the Emperor. Guilliman's resurrection was symbolic of hope rekindled for the Imperium but he's got this dirty little secret which is that the entire 40k Imperium is FUBAR and has just about zero chance of ascending to its former glory. Guilliman has landed at the heart of the Imperium. ‘Tjejren was a servant of the Emperor once. Templars- Absolutely!It was made pretty clear in the Dark Imperium Novels that Guilliman largely disapproves of the Ecclesiarchy and, in general, the religion created around the Emperor. So Guilliman believes it is not the Emperor that creates Saints, but that their intense belief in the Emperor manifests latent psyker abilities. He know by spurning his brother's beliefs so bluntly he had hastened the end of everything the Emperor Believed in. You may recall that we teased this battle in the run-up to the launch of Warhammer+ when we took a peek behind the scenes to discover how the Garden of Iax.